
Burning Bush: Michael Moore on Fahrenheit
9/11
By Jason Anderson
If America’s invasion and occupation of Iraq
is a nightmare from which the country is struggling to awake, then
it’s understandable that Michael Moore chooses to ease viewers
into Fahrenheit 9/11 with a reverie of his own. The film’s
first images are of Al and Tipper Gore presiding over an election-night
victory party in November 2000. These absurd but true pictures prompt
a host of fantasies about what kind of America the Gores might have
ruled. While it’s unlikely that the 9/11 hijackers cared which
party was in charge of the Great Satan, perhaps the embattled America
of 2004 would’ve looked a little more like the festivities
we see here—with cake, punch, and civil liberties for all.
For Moore, it’s a seductive vision that he’s not eager
to abandon. “Did the last four years not really happen?”
the director asks in his familiar, facetious tone, which he thankfully
holds in check for most of the keenly focused polemic that follows.
“Was it a dream?”
Alas, all the confetti in the world couldn’t
protect the winner of the popular vote from the prehistoric nuances
of the electoral college, the Florida officials who rigged procedures
both before and after election night, or the Republican-stacked
Supreme Court. In Moore’s view, the theft of the election
serves as the original sin that created the environment for the
countless immoral acts that followed. Because if Bush, Cheney, Rove,
and the rest realized they could steal an election with only modest
peeps of protest, what else would they be emboldened to do?
First order of business: go on holiday. Moore states
that President Bush spent 42 percent of his first eight months of
office on vacation. That too presents a tantalizing alternate reality—Bush
not as warrior king but absentee landlord. Of course, the former
persona establishes itself in the wake of the attacks on September
11, which Moore—cribbing from Alejandro González Iñárritu’s
archly minimalist contribution to 11’09”01 (2002)—
portrays using a black screen, panic-stricken audio clips and finally
the shocked reactions of dust-covered witnesses.
Moore follows his stark representation of catastrophe
with footage of Bush spending his morning in an elementary school
classroom. When his photo-op is interrupted for the second time
by an aide bearing news of the second plane hitting the World Trade
Center, the commander-in-chief decides that the best course of action
is to sit quietly and continue reading My Pet Goat for nearly seven
more minutes. Of all the choice TV clips collected in Fahrenheit
9/11, the sight of a flummoxed and tragically puppeteer-free president
is potentially the most damaging to his election chances.
And convincing voters of the administration’s
unworthiness is clearly the point of this exercise. Cannes jury
president Quentin Tarantino was talking out of ass when he told
Moore that Fahrenheit 9/11 won the Palme d’Or for reasons
other than its political stance. Politics are everything in Fahrenheit
9/11. A straightforward documentary, it takes few of the stylistic
risks of Bowling for Columbine (2002) or Roger & Me (1989).
Nor does Moore offer much room for the audience to make conclusions
of its own. Then again, the film’s utter lack of ambiguity
on these points may be its greatest strength. Likewise, Fahrenheit
9/11’s urgency and ferocity make it a much more exciting film
than its often scattershot predecessors. Now that it’s largely
been freed from his sometimes aggravating smugness, Moore’s
rage has never been more compelling.
He’s also smart enough to realize he’s
not the star of this movie. The barrage of incendiary found material
and damning (if selectively presented) facts leaves little room
for his TV-friendly pranks. Moore can’t resist baiting Congressmen
on Capitol Hill—first by reciting the Patriot Act on a van’s
loudspeaker (most signed the act without reading it), then by soliciting
them to sign up their children for active duty. But Moore is more
interested in presenting new footage of human-rights abuses on par
with the Abu Ghraib photographs, an appalling Christmas Eve raid
of an Iraqi household, and the story of a Flint, Michigan working
mother named Lila Lipscomb. Like many mothers of soldiers claimed
by the Iraq conflict, she has come to question the reasons why the
Bush administration has sent so many young (and principally working-class)
Americans off to be maimed or killed.
Since the weapons of mass destruction failed to
materialize, Moore considers other motives for the war in Iraq,
the most serious charge being that the administration has cynically
directed attention away from the real parties responsible for the
attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Fahrenheit 9/11
speculates about the connections between the American government
and the Saudi royal family, whose investments count for as much
as seven percent of the US economy. The film also states that Saudis
poured $1.4 billion into the Bush family circle. Little of this
material will be unfamiliar to viewers of international news coverage
of the war or readers of Seymour Hersh’s recent New Yorker
reports or books such as Bob Woodward’s Plan of Attack, Chris
Unger’s House of Bush, House of Saud, Richard Clark’s
Against All Enemies. (Fans of The Daily Show may also recognize
many of the movie’s most ludicrous Bush clips.)
It’s easy to say that Moore is hollering
at the converted, but his film is also clearly designed for an American
audience that has made the mistake of trusting its news sources
(especially the Fox News Channel) and believing that its government
will always do the right thing. In Fahrenheit 9/11, that attitude
is best expressed by Britney Spears when she tells CNN blowhard
Tucker Carlson, “Honestly, I think we should just trust our
president in every decision he makes and should just support that,
you know, and be faithful in what happens.” With a sense of
vigour and discipline, Moore illustrates that the consequences of
Britney’s misplaced faith are unjustified deaths, needless
devastation, and a new generation of extremists who will ensure
that Bush’s war on terror is a war without end. It’s
enough to make a party hosted by Tipper Gore look like fun.
*****
Cinema Scope: In your previous films, you’ve
often included yourself as part of the action on camera. Why did
you largely choose to do otherwise in Fahrenheit 9/11?
Michael Moore: I hope as a filmmaker that I continue
to examine how I construct these films and how they reach people.
I learned a lot from Bowling for Columbine—why that reached
three times as many people as Roger & Me. I would like this
movie to reach even more people than Columbine. A lot of thought
went into constructing this film that way. On a personal level,
I just don’t like looking at myself. Does anybody like having
their picture taken? How about blowing it up to 40 feet? I have
a little sign in the edit room that says, “When in doubt,
cut me out.” While I was making it, I’d show Harvey
Weinstein different cuts and he’d go, “Well, where are
you?” I’d say, “I’m there.” It’s
clearly my voice—not just my physical voice but my spiritual
voice.
Scope: Does this decision have anything to do with
any discomfort you might feel over your visibility or increasing
celebrity status?
Moore: Obviously, I want to reach as many people
as possible and I’m not uncomfortable with the fact that my
books are read by millions. I want them read by even more millions
of people—same thing with the films. As for me being in the
film, I don’t want this character of Michael Moore to be the
focus. I want Lila to be the focus. And I have no problem with letting
Bush drive the humour. The more I tried doing other things, the
more I realized that nothing tops Bush swinging that golf club after
he talks about the terrorist threat. That was better than anything
I could do.
Scope: What kind of effect do you hope to see from
the movie?
Moore: I hope that whoever goes to see it will
feel like their money was well spent and they had a good night out.
Secondly, if they can leave there talking or discussing the issues
or thinking about what they should do as citizens, all the better.
If it makes a contribution to getting the country back in our hands,
even better. I don’t want to presume anything. I mean, c’mon,
it is just a movie on some level. Occasionally in my lifetime I’ve
seen a book or film have such an impact that it does alter things.
I remember as a kid in junior high reading Rachel Carson’s
Silent Spring. It had a profound impact in creating something. You
can cite a few examples like that—To Kill a Mockingbird, Upton
Sinclair’s The Jungle.
Scope: Do you think it’s impossible for you
to make a movie with an American studio?
Moore: If I distance myself in the right way,
I’ve got another good 13, 14 years of filmmaking left before
I can’t get distributed in America. That is, if I burn them
at appropriate intervals—not all at once. I’m down to
four studios that still talk to me and are very positive—one
of their conglomerates publishes my books and another one distributed
Bowling for Columbine. Disney/Miramax is the first American money
that’s been in the driver’s seat of any of my projects.
I funded Roger & Me. The BBC was the driving force behind TV
Nation. The Awful Truth was Channel 4 and Canada’s Salter
Street. The Big One (1997) was funded entirely by the BBC. Canadian
Bacon (1995), PolyGram, a Dutch company. Bowling for Columbine,
Canadian money from Salter Street and Alliance Atlantis. So I decided
a long time ago that I would have more freedom to say what I want
to say if I wasn’t taking American money. Even this one started
out with Australian money [from Mel Gibson’s Icon Pictures].
Scope: Do you think some day your filmmaking will
be able to embrace a more international view of the world or is
it necessary to continue speaking from an American perspective?
Moore: I wish it were that way, that I could be
a world voice. I’ve wanted to make this film about Israel
and the Palestinians for some time. But I’m trapped because
things just keep getting worse in America, and what America does
to the rest of the world keeps getting worse. How can I not deal
with that? Very few Americans have been dealing with this, though,
as you’re seeing, more documentaries and more people are doing
these things. When Stupid White Men came out, there hadn’t
been a book from that perspective on the bestseller lists from ages.
I think you’d have to go back before Reagan to find a number
one bestseller from the left. Now there are all these other books,
and the more others can do it, the more I don’t have to. But
I’m trapped by my own…I don’t know what the word
is. It’s not my nationality, but I am an American and I pay
taxes so I fund the invasion of Iraq. I’m partly responsible
for it and I have to do something about it. But I would like also
to be the other way.
Honestly, it’s different when these people
applaud here in France or when Canadians respond to my work. Sitting
there watching my movie, you already know a lot of what I’m
saying. That’s not true for the American audience. We showed
the film to a couple of audiences in Michigan and they were like
this (Moore’s jaw drops). I was at the back watching them
shake their heads and they weren’t shaking because they’re
disagreeing—they’re going WHAAT? They’re kept
in the dark. They’re not shown these things. Growing up 60
miles from Canada and watching the CBC as a kid gave us a whole
different view of Vietnam than watching it through the American
networks’ eyes. What you see on the nightly news now is not
necessarily what we’re seeing.
Scope: What else do you hope?
Moore: I hope I’ve made an entertaining
film and that for two hours you sat there and you laughed, even
though you knew it. When Bush strikes the ball with the club after
warning everyone about terrorism, I hope you laughed. And I hope
some of you were moved by Lila and the reading of her son’s
letter. I’m not like a lot of old-style documentary makers.
Back then, you would go in first and do all these recordings on
tape and get the whole story, then use that if you needed sound
to cover picture. That was because you did it on film, which was
10 minutes per roll and $400 to buy and develop. So I would have
known already what Lila was gonna say and what was in that letter.
But I didn’t know—she’s reading that to me cold.
I’m sitting there hearing him from the grave asking us not
to return Bush to office. I was sitting there crying. I’m
going, “Fuck! Stop! I can’t concentrate.” I was
too broken up.
Scope: How did you find Lila?
Moore: We just started calling families of people
who had died. They all were more than willing to talk and all going
through their own transitions from being conservative people. It’s
my hope that people who watch this film, like Lila, will go through
a similar transition. You see it from that soldier who’s there
with the nerve damage and he’s on morphine. He says, “I’ve
been a Republican all my life—not any more.” When I
went on tour with Dude, Where’s My Country, I saw that it
was already percolating beneath the surface—this low-level
anger of people starting to figure out they were lied to, that there
were no weapons of mass destruction, that there was no connection
between Saddam and Al-Qaeda. Regardless of their political stripes,
they don’t like being lied to, especially if they’re
working class or poor. They don’t want their kids over there
dying for nothing. I think he’s doomed for what he’s
done. He’s losing his own support.
Scope: How did you get the footage of the Christmas
Eve raid?
Moore: That was shot by a freelancer who was already
there and already embedded. I’m not sure if we contacted him
or he contacted us, but he licensed the footage to us. The footage
you see of Iraq we got a number of ways. There were people who were
already embedded and totally independent who sold us footage. There
were people we got embedded. Then there were people who were already
there and contacted us halfway through and we made a relationship
with them. There’s a whole variety of ways that we had to
work around US government restrictions. We actually found a way
to sneak me in, but what we couldn’t find was a way to sneak
me out! So I had to get creative. With the celebrity thing, I’ve
had to do that more because it’s hard for me now to get into
places. So, for instance, that business conference in the film,
obviously I can’t be in there. I have to be outside the building.
We’ve got a two-way or it’s over the phone line or I’m
some place else—there are any other number of ways that I
don’t really want to discuss. I’m trying to direct a
movie without physically being in the room. Otherwise, I’d
be booted out.
Scope: What led to the decision to present the
9/11 attacks with a black screen?
Moore: When I interviewed the families of victims,
they would all ask me, “Please don’t show that—you
wouldn’t want to watch the death of your loved one over and
over again like that.” The more I thought about it, the more
I realized that people were probably thinking, “Michael Moore,
he’s gonna get the real footage.” And I did. Of the
bodies, of dozens and dozens of jumpers. And the plaza that’s
just littered and strewn with bodies and body parts. But isn’t
the reason we all like to go to the movies is to have our expectations
confounded and to be taken places we don’t necessarily expect
to go? I thought, “Why don’t I do the opposite of what
people are thinking and not show it at all?” So there’s
a minute and ten seconds of black. And I believe that sound is more
powerful sometimes than the picture. Let people conjure their own
images, which are sometimes more horrifying than the repetitive
image of the plane going into the tower.
Scope: How long have you had footage of the soldiers
humiliating prisoners?
Moore: We had that footage before the scandal
broke. We were sitting on it trying to decide what to do with this
footage. We had soldiers touching the private parts of the prisoner
and joking around with the guys with the hoods over their heads.
We were thinking, “We should just release this because it
should be known.” But here’s where I get hemmed in by
the celebrity part. The American press would rip me apart because
here I am in April releasing this, before going to Cannes.
Scope: Another thing your opponents try to do is
to discredit your films by saying you get your facts wrong.
Moore: That’s why I brought a fact-checking
bible. It’s 400 pages but I have a 25-page version of it.
Anything you need, any question you have, I will give you the documentation
on it. My facts aren’t wrong. We can go through all my projects.
After Roger & Me, total number of lawsuits against me: none.
Total number on TV Nation: one, which we won against a company down
in Texas that was spreading manure all over cow fields. Total number
of lawsuits after two seasons of The Awful Truth: zero. I’m
not even talking about winning or losing—just cases filed.
I’ve written four books now. Total number of lawsuits against
me on the books: zero. Total number of lawsuits on The Big One:
zero. Total number of lawsuits on Bowling for Columbine: zero, until
a few months ago. The brother of the guy who blew up the building
in Oklahoma City says I tricked him into taking me into his bedroom
to show me his gun. Believe me, if I had given the NRA any window
to make me look bad—even to just file a nuisance suit to tie
me up—do you think they’d stop for a second going after
me?! They can’t because my films are airtight—they’re
solid, they’re factually correct. This time, we hired the
lawyer who is general counsel for the New Yorker and she brought
in New Yorker fact checkers. I just said, “Tear this apart.”
I’m not going to allow the right to try to
shift the debate from the issues. They cannot debate me on the issues.
If I say, “There’s something wrong with having a quarter-billion
guns in our homes,” that’s the issue. Debate me on that.
They know I have the higher moral ground. What’s their debate
gonna be? (In a redneck voice) “We need more guns!”
They know they’re not going to win over public opinion, so
they have to go after me by saying, “He brought that gun into
the bank in that opening scene! He had to wait six weeks before
he got that gun.” That was an absolute lie. On my website
for Bowling for Columbine, I took each of the six big lies and put
up the documentation and all the outtakes that show stuff that’s
not in the film. I’m not going to tolerate this. I did have
one wrong fact in Bowling for Columbine. I said that Willie Horton
committed murder when he was out on furlough. He was a murderer
before. He’s not a double murderer—he’s only a
single murderer. He raped and attempted murder while he was out
on parole. So I issued an apology to Willie Horton and his family
for calling him a double murderer. That was the only fact wrong
and it was corrected for the DVD.
Scope: You’re the most visible person on
the left in the US. What’s the personal price of this position?
Moore: The personal price is that I have less
privacy and I feel more of the burden that I spoke of: the feeling
that I have to do this. In just two years, I’ve had Bowling
for Columbine, Fahrenheit 9/11, Stupid White Men, and Dude, Where’s
My Country? And I did a five-week show at the Roundhouse in London.
This has taken a lot out of me and that has to change. I’m
working around the clock, seven days a week, and not taking care
of myself. Other than that, of course I get hate mail, and after
the Oscars, there wasn’t a day that went by that someone didn’t
threaten me on the street. I started losing weight last year because
I was walking several miles a day, but I had to stop because each
time I’d go out there’d be at least one person who’d
get right in my face, want to start a fight, or would spit in my
direction. Mostly, they’d just scream: “Fuck you! Fuck
off! You fucker! Move to France, move to Canada, get outta here!”
I was going through LaGuardia and some person comes up from behind
me and says, “You should be exiled.” I said, “I’m
glad you know the difference, because as a citizen I can’t
be deported.” Even in their anger, they get the legal nuance
correctly! But it changed. Look, they were deceived. As the old
lady says in the film, we were duped. By the end of last summer,
I went from pariah to prophet. I couldn’t walk down the street
because people wanted to shake my hand.
Scope: Are there speculations that you didn’t
allow yourself to include in Fahrenheit 9/11?
Moore: I just deal with the facts. Just the facts—what
they are. I laid out what we know. Are other facts possible in the
future? Sure.
Scope: Do you have your own theories?
Moore: I’ll answer this with a question:
Have you ever seen the plane fly into the Pentagon? Now, how many
times have you seen the planes fly into the World Trade Center?
Now, there are at least a hundred video cameras recording things
at the Pentagon. I’m not saying it didn’t hit it—it
did. But why haven’t we seen that footage? Why doesn’t
anyone ask for it? I’ve got two assumptions. There’s
no factual basis behind it, it’s just a theory. Number one,
it’s embarrassing. They were able to penetrate the military
headquarters of the only superpower and they don’t want that
footage being shown. Number two, common sense will tell you to fly
a plane at 500 mph and to hit a target that’s five stories
high, you’ve got to be really good. The person who flew that
plane didn’t learn to fly at some dipshit flight training
school in Florida on a videogame, okay? This is common sense, not
a conspiracy theory. So I think that if we saw the tape, we’d
see the skill of this individual, and that means that person was
trained in the military.
And the question then becomes, which military trained
him? I don’t have the answer, but you could start with the
most obvious one, which would be the Saudi military, considering
how 15 out of 19 of them were Saudis. I’m not saying Saudi
Arabia as a government attacked America, but clearly there’s
so much dissension and division within the Saudi regime. I’m
just saying that this is how my mind works and why my films are
the way they are. I start with a very simple question: “Where’s
the plane that went into the Pentagon? Because there is footage—why
won’t they show that to me? What will it tell me?” And
I go from there.
Scope: Will you be adding anything else to the
film before its theatrical release?
Moore: I have another powerful piece of footage
that I think I will add before the film’s release. Actually,
I have two pieces. They’re something no one else has.
Scope: Can you describe them?
Moore: If I give you a hint you’ll know.
It’ll blow your mind. Ah, that’s just rock and roll
talk.
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